Flat, flat, flat

I decided to look for an other flat, because this one now is very very noisy, and VERY EXPENSIVE!!!

Pictures

There are more pictures available at www.imagestation.com ! :)
(password, username are still the same as they were...)

And to all my Heroes-fan friends:

http://www.brainfall.com/test4_1.php

Do this test... it is funny! :) No, not pathetic at all!!!

I am Claire.. a bit naiv...needs more experience... ;)
Than share with me the result, pls! :)

Impressions about Switzerland, Genéva :)

Well, this was my first month here, and now it is time to share with you my thoughts about the country, Geneva, the swiss people...

I didn't want to write my totally first impressions about the whole, because I tend to be biassed against it, and than it is really hard to change my opinion about it...Just think about my hometown.. GYŐR!!! (no, no, of course I am not biassed against Győr :))

There are things, that I like and there are things that I don't like here...but that's normal!
Of course, I know, that Genéva is a totally different part of Switzerland, and a very special part of it.. so what is true in Genéva, it is not for sure true for other part of Switzerland..

Genéva is an international city, with all the international organisations, banks, etc.



It is really hard to find a "real, real, 100%" swiss around here, everybody is half german-half swiss, half french-half swiss, but the majority is quarter of something, quarter of israelian, american, swiss, nigerian.. I do not know...

Really, it took me 3 weeks to meet somebody who is 100% swiss, and his great grand parents lived there as well...and guess what, it was not in Genéva...but in a small city, somewhere cloes to Italy...in the south...

But I like this diversity here...meet people from all over the world, form totally different culture, from totally different mindset...
and it is good to see on the faces, that I am hungaraian, and everybody is waiting for some more nationalities... I got several times the questions..yeah, ok, you are hungaraian, and your parents, your grandparents?
Well... i know it is borring, but everybody is from Hungary, moreover, everybody is from GYŐR!!!! :)))

(now my bias is understandable... :))


In Genéva,there are lot of green areas, parcs...when the wheather is good, everybody is outside, even businessmen, with suit, they sit on the stones, and eat there lunch there!!!
Cool!!!

I love it! :)

The Swiss people are very democratic, and they are always striving for consens, in a very silent, and calm way. And they have elections "every sunday" :)))) About everything... :)))

There was one prejudice, about the swiss pepole, it was about the time, they are always punctual, never late, and of course WATCHES are very important for them, i.e Rolex!



Tissot is also good... I just have to wait for my salary... and than I can be integrated to the swiss society...
Because @HP... everybody has got huge, huge (even too big), and of course expensive watches...
so, when they saw mine...my beatiful, small, and not that expensive watch..well, that was a cultural shock...for them... :)

MIGROS owns everything...



Migros is a brand for everything (like Tesco at home...), they have Migros bank, Migros shoppes, Migro exchange, Migros petrol station...and they are usually cheap (ok, cheap in Switzerland...)

I was told, that there is a big competition betwwen Coop and Migros, they are almost on the same price, something is cheaper in one, others are chepaer in the second one...But, if your parents, your grandparents, their parents went to Coop, than u have to go ther as well, ok, not have to, but than u will go there as well, that's the tradition...

For me, I prefer the cheaper... ;)

Of course, Switzerland is famous for it's cheese, and CHOCOLATE!!!!

But, keep in mind: never let a belgian and a swiss to talk about the chocolates...
if u do so, be sure, u have a clear argument, and a clear choice, whether belgian or swiss chocolate are better!!!!

Well...both are delicious!

And one thing is sure, in Belgium chocolate is something special, some kind of luxury, you will never find a belgian chocholate for 75 cents... (Vincent told me)
In Switzerland, you can...

Chocolate is (one of) the best topic among internationals....yesterday we compared the hungarain, american, nigerian, german (MILKA), swiss and belgian chocolate...
well... the result is shocking...
we couldn't decide...
yes, because, it was just a theoretical comparison, we didn't try them.. unfortunately...

But, we decided to organize a Chocolate fondue night!!!
I can't wait for this!!!
hmmm....nyammmmii... :)))



So, dear Reader, now it is time to vote... Which chocolate do u think is the best in the world???
(if u say swiss, than name a brand as well, so than next time i can taste it:)

It is also a test, measuring who is reading my blog... :)

Votes for TúróRudi won't be counted :)

I love all chocolate, white, bitter, milk, small, big, filled with sth, with penuts, in different flavour! :)))

oh.....

Swiss dreams!

Technology...IT...HP...

I am still wondering, what am I doing @HP???
Really...

Everybody around me is an IT expert, IT specialist, IT genius...or at least know everything about lap tops, headsets, pixcels, and the other words I do not even know...
It's strange...

Specially, when you have to order a headset for yourself...and you have to choose the best...

Why did they give me this task???

ok, no complaining...it's a challenge...and it is just about a headset..at least I know what it is...

And, the IT helpdesk already knows my voice,and nowadays, always when I would like to talk to him, he is always away, busy, out of the office... Strange, isn't it?

Technology...yeah.. on Wednesday we had a telephone conference, on the net!!!
With Netmeeting...:)
That was sooo greeaaat!!!

Previously, I got an email, with all the instructions I should do (really, for dummies: dial 0, than dial 33523257, then press 2, than wait till..., than..)
So it was easy to install the whole process...

But of course, it's me.. so.. nothing is easy for me... :)

Still, it's really cool, we have the opportunity to see i.e. an italian employee's desktop, and if he gives us the right to control his lap top, we can even write on his lap top in Italy, form Switzerland, form my desk...
Cool...amazing...

Of course, we were totally shocked, and excited about all this, told it to our boss as well, and he just: "Oh, yes..that's HP...the best technology, the best ever..."

(ok, maybe know I broke some blogging rules accoriding to HP Standard of Businees Conduct...:)) )

But still, really, if we have all these brand new technlolgy, internet, everything, we do not need to go TO the office, we can easily work from home...
I can see that in the future...and I don't like it...
no personal relationship, just contact via net, writing, no real meetings...

Maybe I am too traditional, not openminded enough, or maybe it is because of my lack knowledge of IT...but still...

Anyway...

Yesterday, we had a BBQ party!!! :))))

It was very very great!!!
The food, the people, the environment, the drinks, the people...!!! :)))

Here are some pictures:







Ok,the last one was the toilett...but the main thing is the wallpaper!!!
The whole house was an antic style house...but wonderful! and the garden...wow...

The best was the key in the toilet...but no photo about it... :)

So, everybody is asking me, what am I doing @HP...
Well...the whole department, where I am doing my internship is about to change...to change as a whole, people are leaving, new are coming (Peter and myself)...the whole system, how they worked before my boss came, was totally different, what my boss now wants...Actually, there is only 1 person who knows the whole process from the begining til the end, and that will be my task to follow up, to understand, to document this proccess, and the main part is to find out a tool, a system, how to communicate this whole process... It is actually very interesting, because the planing has just started, so now I can influence from the begining, and see everything...
BUT.. it is not really a financial job...

My other task will be more operational...we are colllecting datas from all over Europe, Middle East and Africa...I have to collect them as well - from our partners, employees, everybody - than play with them - structure them, a little analyse as well, but the biggest part of that will be Peter's job. He will do more technical job, delaing with excell, with metrics, and d osome simulations, forecast...
Well, his job is more financial... :(

So, basicly, Knowledge mmanagement, and Data management is my job...
sounds interesting... :S

Ok, I didn't expect to be a manager, or a decisionmaker, but still... yeah, it is an internship...

but so far, I like it... there are also other traniees at the company, so, networking is working :)

This week was about learning, get to know the company a little, do some trainings (well, american style...international company...training about the Standard Business Conduct, IT security, Health... "intersting" but usefull topics...)
And form tuesday we can start working...:)FINALLY!!!! Yeaaahhh

First days @HP

Yees, finally we got our workpermit...

Ok, I don't want to write a lot about it...It's enough, that I was totally freaked out, almost (maybe not...) crying, how will I have money, what is going on with our contract, etc.
The best was, when a man from the workpernit office said: It is not even legal for the 2 hungarians to stay here...

OH COOOOOMMMMMEEEEOOON!!!!

Hungary is EU-member country... What's going on???

So for this statement, we went to the Office Cantonale de la Population...personally...
First they were not that helpful, but we were trickier, so finally, after half an hour begging, shouting, politly asking finally we got the right to start working...

We are still waiting for the workpermit, but it's just a small detail...doesn't matter...

Unbeliveable, the burocracy is almost as bad as in Hungary...
Maybe worst...

So, than we called the boss..He was soooo happy!!!!
Almost as we were... ;)

And finally on Tuesday we could start.
Yes, just for the joke.. on Tuesday at 7:30 in the morning, I got an sms saying that my boss is ill, we won't meet him in the morning, but somebody will take care for us in the office...

Nooo...nothing goes so easily...
But..why not????
Why does it have to be so complicated???

Anyway, on Tuesday, went to the HP...
The company is almost in France...from the office I could see the mountains, which belongs to France... :)))
really...around 5 minutes :)

HP is an american company, so the whole office is a 3-floor building.. I imagined something like Deutsche Post in Bonn... but no... :(

And there are boxes...yeah, that's not the proper expression, I know, just I've forgotten the name of it... anyway, so we are working on boxes, cabins, and I've got a lap top :)
Ok, yeah, it would be weired, if a company wouldn't have given a computer...
I can take it home as well...but it doesn't have so much sense...

The job sounds really nice, challenging, and responsible...
SOUNDS...

we will see...

And my boss is really cool, funny, lazy, crazy... :)
He remembered everything what I told them on the interview...(maybe because of the records...Móni? :)
And he said, yeah, well, I think, you like working together with people, talking, talking, so I give you 2 projects...
:)

Actually, after 1,5 day "hard working", now I have 2 days off..which is cool...

Today there is a national holiday in Switzerland :)
And Friday is off as well :)

I am wondering what are my friends doing,...final thesis, lots of work, work, work...
HOLD ON!!! :)))
Just a few more days!
And send me photos taken for the yearbook!
I need all...or at least send me the link lateron :)

I would like to be on the photos as well... :((

Anyway...before I cry, I upload 2 pictures about HP :)





Yesterday we went out, to celebrate Diana's birthday! :)

We went to Heaven...which is a very nice place, specially, if u can find it :)
After some minutes in the rain, finally we found it :)
And this is a pub, where u are not allowed to smoke!!!
What a nice idea!!! And there ARE people there, so it worth to the pub :)

It was a good night, until...I sat between a girl from Israel, and a palestin guy.. well...that was interesting.. listening to 2 people, talking with each other about their situation...blow my mind...challenging my worldview...

After a guiness we left the place...because they close at 1!!! or even earlier...

But I am waiting for tomorrow! Vodka and some people, and party!

(Unbeliveable, I am writngi again about the party...:))

kisses,
Havas

(Something has to happen in Heroes 23...it starts being borring and predictable...but House :)

Kick-off 2007, Fiesch

Ok, that's true...I should write in English...as I am very very lasy, and I get bored easily just writing here... (:)) that's wh I can not promise, that I will always write her in Hungarian as well...
Anyway, so this weekend I went to the Kick-off...which is an aiesec conference. It took place in Fiesch :)
It is a beautiful small village, not even mentioned in my BOOK about Switzerland :)
(this is a perfect book...)

On Friday I was totally freaked out, ok, I don't have money, I don't have my workpermit, I wanted to rent a new flat, but before we could signe the contract, the owner called, that the flat is not available, and the biggest problem was that I didn't have anything for the parties... (The other me, Timemachine...)
Yes, that was the biggest problem :)

With the other trainees from Geneva left around 18... It is really cool, that u can buy a card, which means that u can buy every ticket half price... and if u are under 25, there is an other card, whith this u can travel for FREE after 7... :)
Ok, for the first time, when u have to buy these cards.. it is really expensive, but it worth...actually, after the 2nd travel, u can get back ur money :)

The traintrip was amazing!!!!
If I looked out on the right saw the Lac Léman (Genevean lake), on the left the mountaines... with snow!!!!
áááááááááááááá

Amazing, beatuiful, gorgeous...(well I have to improve my vocabulary...)

Of course as a cool intern, we already started drinking in the train :)))

We had to change in Brig, that was funny... It is a small village, and according to the internet, we had to walk 7 minutes to get from the trainstation to the busstation.... well, yes...it took 7 minutes, if u go to the Hauptstrasse, than turn back and on the other side go back... :)
But the main square is also beautiful :)

From Brig to Fiesch we went by bus...well... busses and me... khm...
in the mountaines...fortunatly it just took half an hour...I am not sure whether I could have handled more time... :)))

So, it was a normal camp, with nice rooms, around 20 other people in the same room, common showers, nothing special :)

But the environment!!!!






This conference was great! All the tracks were here, different agenda for noewies, teames, leeders, goldies, and for interns...
For example, we had "Networking and Challenging my worldview" session...

Yes, now I can imagine your faces...of course my was the same as well...
ok, again this session..perfect.. challenging my worldview... nooooo wayy.... i will skip it... bullshit, fluffy stuff...just talking...
And nooo
Imagine, this means..."Exploring Fiesch" :)))))

That wasw the best, with the goldies we went to the village, and got to know each other... :)))
And we just enjoyed the sun, the mountains, the perfect blue sky, and the cloudes...

Actually, we figured out a new method for the "introduction.."
You can imagine, you meet somebody for the first time.. and start, "Hi, I am Szilvia from Hungary...
No, not form Budapest...
No, not from the Lake Balaton...
I am an intern in LC Geneva, I will work at HP, Hewlett-Packard as a Sales
Compensation Analyst,
ok, not now, I am waiting for my workpermit...
yes, me neither, I do not understand, of course Hungary is EU-member country...
I was in Aiesec in Hungary , I did... And u?"

That speech happened always, like for 100 times...
no no way...
so, we were joking, ok, why not just put a paper on us, and than go to a totally stranger, and ask him: "Do u like reading, books, travelling, politics? anything, just not always the same..."

Here are some picture about Fiesch...

So, just to cut it short, it was great!!! :)))
And I think, I am getting being involved in aiesec... that's true.. enjoying participation is the most important thing, if u don't enjoy what u are doing than it is useless...

But here... it is different, than at home...

Oh, and the best... LC Geneva won the "ROLE MODEL LC" award!!!!

Yes, I was not informed, that there will be an Offical Dinner as well... :S
So, I was almost the only one, who wore jeans with a Tshirt...everybody in suit, nicem, beautiful skirt, blackclothes....
That could be the feeling for us in Tokio... :D

I meet a lot of amazing people from all around the world... I meet a guy from Nigeria, who is the best friend of our MCVP X Aiesec in Hungary... :))

I meet a trainee for Sweden, who is working together with Jucus... :)))

The world is so small... amazing :)

kisses

Havas

More pictures...







The LC, a small part of the interns, and more picture about Fiesch... :)


only

Még képek

Megvan hogy kell képeket felrakni!!! :))))

Nagyon bonyolult...

Az előző poston:
1. Mont Blanc sétány--- a gyönyörű fákkal
2. Angol kert romantikus pontja
3. Lac Léman - Genfi -tó (itt majd biciklizünk, ha jöttök)
4. Sziszi királynőt itt szúrták le

Képek

Mostanában annyi minden történt...
Pl. volt ugye az egyetemi party...
Elég furán kezdődött, de aztán lassan, lassan beindult a buli :)

Aztán pénteken jöttek a sorozatok...:)

Szombaton Garden party volt... tiszta jó volt, egy csomó stand, bárki kiállíthatott bármit, volt aiesec stand is - de azt nem találtuk meg -, meg volt kaja, pia...
3-4 színpad, sok zene, buli...
Csak esett az eső! :(

De azért ez nem szegte kedvünket, táncoltunk mi az esőben is!
Persze a nagyszínpadon volt a legdurvább, rock ment, vmi német banda... szakdó esőben, semmi sátor, de az igaz rajongók azok ott voltak! :)

Másnap ugyanebben a parkban a francia elnökválasztásra készülődtek, Sarkozy ünneplésére, támogatására jött összes egy kisebb csoport.

Ma meg nagy Global Village volt, az Római szerződés megkötésének 50. évfordulóját ünnepelték... Genfben... biztos vmi EU propaganda, mondjanak már igent a svájciak...

A standok közül a magyart és a spanyolt nem láttam... a többi ott volt!
Minden ország vmi jellegzetes kajával, piával készült...
Az íreknél ingyen baileys, whisky, guinness... Az olaszokat a szicíliaiak képviselték.. vicces egy nép... de a kajájuk isteni!!!! :))))Nyammmiii....

Persze a németeknél sült a jó kis wurst, meg folyt a sör, a lengyelek jó kis bulit csaptak! :)

Az este megint német rockkal és pár kameruni "magánszámával" zárult. :)))
Azt hiszem, kezdem megszeretni a német rockot... :)))

Most egyébként 1 héten át Állásbörze vana genfi egyetemen! Nagyon jól megszervezték szerintem... a múlt héten, meg még e hét elején is workshopok, előadások voltak, CV javítás, ilyesmik, persze mind franciául...
Egy francia előadásra én is beültem, a svájxi bankhelyzetről szólt, és a Rotschield bank mellett még egy genfi alapítvány beszélt erről. Az alapítványt nem értettem, de a Rotschield.es fickó a kockázatmenedzsmentről beszélt, az elég érthető volt, főleg úgy, hogy minden ámsodik mondat, amit kivetített tele volt angol szavakkal...

Ma meg az igaz állásbörze kezdődött, a standokkal, meg cégprezentációkkal...
Nagyon durva...
Ha a HP kirúg, akkor is maradok itt...és elmegyek vmi bankba, vagy a McKinseyhez :)))
Új álmom... :)

Persze meg kell tanulnom ehhez franciául!

Jaaa, és a legviccesebb:
Voltunk Tompiékkal lakást nézni, mert azért nagyon durva árak vannak itt, és olcsóbb lenne mindenkinek, ha összeköltöznénk!

Enid talált is egy jónak ígérkezőt: 60 m2, 1440 CH... 3mal osztva azért egész jó!
Megkerestük...

öööööööö

Egy alagsori, régi tárolóban találtunk magunkat, ahol a plafonba, a oince tetejébe majdnem én is bevertem a fejem..,.zuhanyzó még nem volt, ígéret szerint jövő hétre készítik... kis ablak, egy főzőfülkeszerűség... és egy nagy szoba.. műpadlóval, semmi bútor...

Vicces volt! :)

De azért úgy néz ki, találtunk egy jó megoldást, nagyon olcsó, és szép kis lakás, gyönyörű konyhával! :)
Ott kiélhetem főző tudásomat! :)

No, még 7:31 perc és lejön a heroes 21...kösz Móni :))))

pussz
Hó

Buliiii....

Ma végre úgy néz ki elmegyünk egy egyetemi partyba...

Itt az emberek sokkal inkább a munkára koncentrálnak, alig szórakoznak.
Mondjuk, ha meglesz az engedélyem, és én is dolgozhatok, akkor lehet, nekem is ez lesz a véleményem...(Végülis, ezért vagyok itt, nem? Ez nem Erasmus!!! :))

No, de azért én bulit is szeretnék, kultúrákat megismerni, nem csak munka, munka, munka...

Most viszont már hiányzik, hogy kicsit igyunk, beszélgessünk, táncoljunk.

Remélem jó lesz...

Bár inkább nem várom, mert ha várom, akkor az mindig rosszul sül el...

"Bárhogy lesz, úgy lesz...!"

Aiesec Genf

Mivel időm legtöbb részét, Tompiékon kívül, az AIESEC-kel töltöm, ezért róluk írnék először.

Ma volt VPF választásuk, pénzügyes elnökhelyettest választottak.
Izgalmas volt.

Úgy néz ki náluk a választás, hogy legeslegelőször van egy Review Board, ami egy bíráló panel tulajdonképpen, 3 jelenlegi EBből áll, meg 2 régebbi EBtagból, és ők javaslatot tesznek, hogy a jelölt alkalmas-e, vagy sem a pozícióra. Természetesen itt is van jellap, angolul. Aztán jön a HB gyűlés, ahol az első jelölt (abc sorrend alapján döntenek) elmondja a beszédét, majd ezt követi egy 5 perces (persze mindig több... :) ) kérdésszekció, majd kimegy a jelölt, felolvassák mit döntött a RB, meg hogyan jellemezték őt, aztán jön a megvitatás része a dolognak. Lehet mellette, ellene, általánosan szólni...
Aztán jön a 2. jelölt, és nála is lemegy ugyanez.
Szóval a kérdésszekció külön-külön van.

És, ami a legfurcsább az egészben, hogy én, mint intern, teljesjogú HB tagnak számítok, csak fizetnem nem kell, teáht szavazhatok!
És szavaztam is! :)

Igaz, először le akartam adni a szavazatomat vkinek (mert itt ilyet is lehet, ha vki nem jön el, átadja vkinek a szavazatát...)
de aztán meggyőztek, hogy végülis egy külsős szem is jól jön...

Érdekes volt, mert ugye 2 jelölt volt, és nagy vita alkult ki, mert az egyik egy newie.. kb. 2 hete van az @-ben... a másik meg egy idősebb, de többek szerint egyáltalán nem megbízható, és a RB nem is javasolta őt... mindegy, szóval nagy vita volt... és több fordulós lett a szavazás.

Szóval, első körbe nem ment át az 50%+1 -es arányú győzelem ,ezért újra szavaztunk...
(csak úgym, semmi kérdések, vagy vita, csak újra szavaztunk.. mit gonodltak a szervezők? hogy majd csak úgy, pikk-pakk vki meggondolja magát??? mindegy.. második kör is eredménytelen lett... így jött a 3. kör... és ez sem hozott eredményt... pedig az eB világosan megmondta, hogy ők a newiet akarják, a másikban nem bíznak, mégsem...

Érdekes volt...

A 3. kör végén megkérdeztem a levezető elnököt, hogy nekem jogom van-e szavazni (miután ugye már 3-szor szavaztam...) Jófej vagyok, mi? :)))

Erre persze mindenkit kivert a víz, összevissza nézegették az SZmSZ-t... (Ismerős, mi? :) ) fordították nekem is angolra... (így ugye tiszta pontatlan lett az egész... de aztán kiderült, hogy szavazhatok.

Azért annyit még megjegyeznék, hogy azért Svájcban is él az aiesec time... szóval, ennyit a pontosságukról! :)

De kedvesek voltak, mert egyből angolra váltottak, mihelyst megérkeztem... :)

Sőt, az egyik srác már OC tagnak is meghívott, úgyhogy... a "lejtőn" nincs megállás... :)

az egész úgy 22-ig tartott (18:30-től...), és mindenki ki volt akadva, hogy ilyen hosszú választás még sose volt... khm.. mit szólnának ezek a régi magyar választásokhoz... :)

Hazafele találkoztam a lakótársaimmal, az egyikük Hubert, német, 26, és jófej, de irtó magas... úgy kell futnom utána, de komolyan, míg ő csak egy lépést tesz... :)
A másik meg Alex, x, és kis alacsony olasz...
ő csak nemrég jött vissza Indonéziából, mert a Fogorvosok Világszövetségének (vagy vmi ilyesminek) szervezett programokat...
jó kis melója van... csak úgy repked jobbra-balra... :)

Bocs, hogy ez is részletes, és hosszú lett...

ja, ha ráértek (mondom ezt a szakdogát író barátaimnak...hihihi), és játszani szeretnétek, itt egy oldal:
http://www.kisalfold.hu/delm/games/jatekok/pengame.swf
és
http://www.kisalfold.hu/index.php?id=1000308&fid=1000898

csók

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Sziasztok!

Wow...igazából meguntam, hogy mindenkinek külön-külön irogassak, ezért úgy döntöttem, hogy nekem is lesz egy blogom... (Angi adta az ötletet...:))

Szóval, még új vagyok ebben atémában, nem tudom, hogy poénos lesz-e, inkább olyan havasos...

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Én bírom a stílusát...
:)

Április 25-én este érkeztem Genfbe, ahol is egy éves szakmai gyakorlatomat fogom tölteni.

Eddig minden szép, és jó! Az AIESEC tiszta sokat segít, kezdek jobban belelátni az itteni dolgokba, már ismerem a lakótársaimat - ami nem volt könnyű - és kezdem élvezni.

A blogom célja, hogy kapcsolatban maradjak kis barátaimmal otthon, meg persze a családommal, és hogy Svájcról is, a benyomásaimról is írjak...

AIESEC nyomta, hogy angol legyen, úgyhogy shortly majd mindig sum up the things... :)

We will see...

Ennyi elsőre, megnézem, hogy fog kinézni...(jaj, miért vagyok én informatikából béna.. még, jó, hogy a Hewlett-Packardnál fogok dolgozni...)

pussz